Join ADHD Groups!

Click the arrows to expand each group category below

Parents of ADHD Children

ADD Adults

ADHD and Related Conditions

ADHD Professionals

ADHD Resources

Groups by Location

ADHD in Indiana

Dr. Recommendation

Can anyone recommend a good ADHD dr in the Fort Wayne area? It is for my husband. We tried about a year ago to get a diagnosis and treatment but the dr we went to diagnosed him with depression. We both feel that it is more than just depression. All signs lead to ADHD. Thanks

Replies

Hello,

Here is a list from Psychology Today:

http://therapists.psychologytoday.com/rms/prof_results.php?city=Fort+Wayne&county=Allen&state=IN&spec=6

It is sad how often antidepressants are prescribed for ADHD symptoms.  I was on antidepressants for 26 years.  I now believe my depression was a symptom of my ADHD. 

One week on Ritalin and my anxiety, depression and all my hyperactive/impulsive symptoms subsided substantially.  Psychiatrists are not God and I believe you have to be your own advocate.  I took 3 ADHD tests online which validated I had more than depression.

Here is one site:

http://counsellingresource.com/lib/quizzes/adhd-testing/

Good luck to you and your husband!

Mitzi

Posted by Mitzi Maine on Feb 24, 2014 at 8:36pm

Hey You Guys ... (niklongnecker and Mitzi)

Congratulations, Mitzi!  Your perseverence has paid off.  It sounds like you have found a path that is going to give you some much wanted relief.  And niklongnecker, you can take a cue from Mitzi’s experience, and mine too, as an incentive to continue the direction of your search.  There is really only one place to start, and that is with your own personal decision to talk to a quilified professional. You have taken the first step. I wish you much good luck also.

But, oh, dear Mitzi, let’s don’t be too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater.  Antidepresents are just as legetimate a medication for ADHD as are stimulants.  It looks like you have found that Ritalin rings the bell for you.  It does the same thing for me, by the way. Within an hour of taking my first Riatlin I could feel the effects beginning to take hold.  And, that same night I slept like a baby for the first time in many, many years.

You might be interested to know that after being on Ritalin for 18 months, I continue to take both Wellbutrin and Prozak. You see, even though Wellbutrin and Prozak are both antidepressants, they are by no means identical.  They have two different jobs to do and they each do their work in different parts of the brain.  So, it could be proper and beneficial to take neither of them or one of them or both of them or, as it is for me, both of them along with something else. Your doctor will help you discover what is best for you.  It took some amount of expiramentation to find the proper ratio of the three for me. But, once it all came together, that is the combination that works best for me.  So, let’s don’t be too quick to shake a finger at the antidepressants.

You might feel tempted, as I surely was, to wish that you had discovered the Ritalin years sooner.  That would be a more legitimate response, in my mind, than discredeting years spent on antidepressants.  But, even that reaction is a waste of time, as we both should be celebrating the fact that we have now found something that works, however long it took us to find it.  Also, one never knows what life would have been like for those 26 years had there been no antidepresents prescribed. 

My theory is pretty simple ... Continue on into the future, always looking for ways to make life better and more livable.  Never turn your back on a source of help or something that could be helping you.  Listen to everyone without judgment, read as much as you can, attend seminars and webinars, join a self-help group, join ADDA, and keep yourself up to date and, as much as you are able, at the forefront of current thinking.  For example, if you pick up two books on ADHD, look to see how old they are.  Then, read the newer one first. 

Your doctor is a wonderful, compassionate person with a nearly impossible job.  We expect the doctor to always be right and to never say “I don’t know.”  That isn’t always possible.  With medications, it is often necessary to try something and see if it helps.  In that case, you rely on the doctor’s knowledge to keep you safe from the consequences of trying a medication whether or not it ultimately works for you. 

Finally, for both of you, and your families and close friends, none of us can ever know too much about ADHD.  And, the first thing to know, and understand, and believe, is that there is NOTHING wrong with the ADHD person.  There is nothing to cure.  There is nothing to fix.  We ADHD people are very, very strong in some areas and very, very weak in other areas.  THAT is what makes us different ... it is the areas of our strengths and weaknesses that are different from someone else, or from what society has come to expect. 

Therapy helps us understand and work on those differences.  Medication makes our lives more liviable while we work on those differences.  Reading, learning, understanding, coaching, etc., prepare us to make a life where we take advantage of our strengths, and don’t get all hung up and sideways over our weaknesses, as we develop ways to deal with them. 

On the whole, one of the best tasks I ever undertook was to identify my strengths, so I am now confident in what they are, and to identify my weaknesses, so that I could back off on my efforts trying to be good at them.  Instead, for the most part, I now limit most of my efforts to leveraging the things which I know I can do well. 

ADHD is what I am.  I am not like you, I am me. I constantly strive to be a better me, not so that you will like me more, but so I will like me more.  Then, when I like me more, so will you.

In the immortal words of Bronislawa Przybylowska, the great Polish philosopher, biologist and part time sus chef at La Anura Ranida,  “Living with ADHD is not so much about kissing frogs as it is about looking for the Prince.”

Best wishes to both of you.  Keep looking up ...

JW
Bloomington

Posted by Washbush on Feb 25, 2014 at 12:29am

Ohh Dear JW thank you for your response! I do appreciate we are all separate individuals with our own experiences.

You are correct in one sense that the 26 years on antidepressants kept my head above water, like treading water with a life jacket on.  Without it, for me, I would have surely died.

However since I didn’t get diagnosed until I was 49 I can’t help but think how different my life would have been had I been diagnosed, even a decade earlier. 

There is no comparison between treading water and getting out of the water and walking on land.  That is how different it has been for me with my experience post diagnosis/treatment.

Yes meds are awesome I agree, but I have found no meds to be even better.  I have been off Ritalin and Wellbutrin for over a year now.  Neurofeedback worked as well as Ritalin did when I first started taking it except the changes are permanent.  My ADHD symptoms were rooted in the imbalances in my brain.  Now my brain is more balanced. 

Not sure what you mean by there is nothing wrong with the ADHD person.  I was incredibly impaired by my ADHD symptoms.  However for me solving the imbalances in my brain eliminated the symptoms. 

The fact that I find it incredibly frustrating that I saw the same psychiatrist for 17 years and I can’t help but think “What if he had just given me an ADHD questionnaire over that time period?” That is how I diagnosed myself.  He was the professional.  He knew about Adult ADHD.  I had all the chronic symptoms anxiety, depression, hyperness, impulsiveness, insomnia, I talked loudly and lightening fast, etc.  I never got better.  I just stayed in the water with a life jacket on treading water.  That was all the antidepressant did.  So excuse me if I don’t feel like praising my psychiatrist, he failed me terribly. 

One of the saddest symptoms I had was my impulsive spending of money. I spent it as fast as I made it.  Before my diagnosis, I had 2 businesses, working 6-7 days a week for almost 10 years. I made a lot of money and did not save a penny.  No retirement.  I was going so fast and all time was in the present moment.  I had no concept of being here in the future. Then I got injured and gave up one business and just did petsitting part-time relying on credit cards as I had no savings to fall back on.  I am still digging myself out of debt.  I have paid off 2/3 of it in the past 18 months.  Almost in the black. 

The reality is I did what I was supposed to do.  I sought help.  The reality is I was misdiagnosed.  It makes me angry/sad. I will get over it.  I am just not there yet. 

That is my journey and life goes on.

Mitzi

Posted by Mitzi Maine on Feb 25, 2014 at 2:59am

Mitzi: What is neurofeedback?

Posted by niklongenecker on Feb 25, 2014 at 11:22pm

Hi niklongenecker,

Here is an official definition which is more technical

http://www.eeginfo.com/what-is-neurofeedback.php

My experience with Neurofeedback is laying in a reclining LazyBoy chair with a couple of electrodes attached to my head (I never feel them) and headphones watching a TV screen.  When I first started, I played a game where I watched a spaceship like a video game and my focus and concentration would speed up or slow down the ship. I eventually graduated to watching narrated documentaries.  The whole process was to retrain my brain to run smoother.  I had a feeling of relaxation on the first session that was even better than my first dose of Ritalin and THAT experience was life changing.

Overall I found the experience very relaxing and enjoyable.  I had 2 sessions a week for the first month and then weekly sessions for awhile after that.  Everyone is different with the number of sessions that will be needed.  I had at least 10 sessions to start.  I still go for follow-up sessions when life deals me intense emotional situations i.e. death of a parent, death of my beloved cat, and loss of a tooth in my smileline. 

The beauty of NF is that once your brain resets itself it stays.  It never goes back to where it started. I have such intense respect for my brain now.  It operated in a chaotic/frenetic state (which is why I was always anxious) for 49 years and now I am no longer hyper, impulsive, anxious, or severely depressed.  I used to talk excessively fast and loud. If I was having a conversation with someone, I would interrupt them because I just couldn’t wait.  I had the hardest time being patient for anything!

Now overall I feel calmer and grounded.  It means the world to me.

I would say the issues I still struggle with are secondary like clutter and time management.  I have to work to keep clutter down (I am fortunate my fiancĂ© doesn’t do clutter) and I can still lose track of time sometimes, but overall it is pretty minor. 

Also I get my NF sessions through a trained LCSW so the rates are lower.  She charges $150 a session.

I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have any other questions.

Mitzi

Posted by Mitzi Maine on Feb 25, 2014 at 11:50pm

Reply to this thread

You must be logged in to reply. To log in, click here.
Not a member? Join ADDConnect today. It's free and easy!

Not a member yet? Join here »


Important! User-Generated Content

The opinions expressed on ADDConnect are solely those of the user, who may or may not have medical training. These opinions do not represent the opinions of ADDConnect or ADDitude magazine. For more information, see our terms and conditions.