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So I’m 26 years old and and a male I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD since u was 5 years old I’ve been in trouble alit as a teenager and went through numerous bouts of depression and substance abuse the last year I’ve notice that I have more manic episodes that I’m very paranoid regularly for no reason I don’t sleep we’ll ever and my depression is at an all time worse I’ve been off and medication all my life adderall Ritalin Vivanse I’m currently not on any medication I don’t like the way it makes me feel was wondering if anyone out there can give me any good input

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You need to make an appointment with a counselor who will probably advise you to see a psychiatrist to answer why you are having manic symptoms and paranoia.  I believe this is very important to do.  My daughter has bipolar disorder (not saying you do), but she started out manic and paranoid.  She got worse and delusional.  When she was little ADHD was not talked about as much.  When I look back - she probably did have this.  I have ADHD and was diagnosed in 2006 as an adult.  In her teens, she became depressed and at that time, they called bipolar disorder manic depression (which the physicians at that time didn’t explain to me properly).  After she got married and had her 3rd child, the bipolar/manic depression kicked in (which is common in age 20’s for women and men).  The sooner you nip this, the better you will feel.  The psychiatrist (if you need to see one), will probably try medications until they get to correct formula for you.  I am just giving my advice, as if you were my child - good luck!

Posted by JADD on Dec 01, 2013 at 6:10pm

Hello, first of all how long have you been off medication?  26 and been on medication since around 5 years old, WOW You poor dear, I feel so sorry for your poor body all those meds all those years no wonder you had issues with addiction and depression, mood disorders.  No one listens to me when I say long term meds are a big NO NO.  Medications should be used temporary.  My nephew is going through the same thing as you and hes medication free also.

You may need medication since your body has become so dependent on them, and never just stop taking them cuz that causes depression, paranoia, sleepyiness, dizziness, wow uncontrollable hunger.  What you need to do right now while waiting to see a doctor is take a multi-vitamin, have a few good protein drinks like Garden of life brand, Omegas are a MUST for the adhd/add brain, Magnesium 400 mgs a day, vitamin D about 1600-2000 mg for a male around your age. Wouldn’t hurt to take about 25 mcg of Zinc.  Im not a doctor but Ive been through the medication merry go round and its deadly so I understand.  I’ve done hundreds of hours of research on going all natural with no Big Pharma Meds, only vitamins ect.  Also put down that bag of chips and try gluten free.  Your life can change with in one week if you follow this routine.  Im almost normal, almost.  Im not lazy, or crazy anymore and my house and head are clean. no more fog, dizziness, spacy, tired, damp feeling.

Posted by BexIssues on Dec 02, 2013 at 11:14pm

Be sure to always talk with your doctor before taking supplements. While they are “natural” and readily available over-the-counter, they are not regulated by the FDA and some can have side effects or be dangerous in combination with some prescription medications.

Penny
ADDconnect Moderator & Mom to Tween Boy with ADHD and LDs

Posted by adhdmomma on Dec 03, 2013 at 1:43pm

If you are experiences symptoms of mania, it will be very important to see if you have bipolar illness. If you do, you will be given medication for that illness. It is important if you have bipolar illness that you do NOT go on anti-depressants because they can set off and exacerbate manic symptoms and even through you into being bipolar. So please try to go see a psychiatrist. General practitioners and other doctors often mean well but they often do not have the experience and knowledge to diagnose and adequately treat the symptoms that you mention. Please take good care of yourself.

Also, BexIssues says that being on medication long term is a no-no. That is definitely true of some medications, especially ones like Ritalin that can be addictive and people develop a tolerance to. However, for people who are depressed, the evidence is that people who are on antidepressants long-term tend to have fewer recurrences of depression. Studies that look at use over years find that that the time it takes for another bout of depression is longer among people who stay on “maintenance” doses of anti-depressants. Bipolar disorder is a chronic disease that does need to be carefully managed over the long term. Whether or not the drugs for bipolar are good for the body is up for debate but it’s usually a question of evaluating the adverse physical effects of the drugs compared to the improved life functioning afforded by the drugs. Other factors play a role. Unfortunately, the answers are not easy but it is really important that you take care of yourself. It sounds like you have a good sense of responsibility for what you are and have gone through, good or bad. I hope moving forward that you can take steps to feel better and improve your life. LIke I said, it’s NEVER easy but congratulations to you for taking the step of reaching out and asking for help!

Posted by PMK on Dec 10, 2013 at 3:36pm

Along with what Bexissues has mentioned also I have a list of things that you can do on your own for anxiety and depression that could help you out.
1.  Instead of fighting the anxiety go with it - fighting it can make is worse and last longer.
2.  Do deep breathing exercises by taking a few deep breaths and releasing slowly. To put it a different way, combing 1 & 2 - ABC’s - Accept, Breath, Challenge. (replace your irrational thoughts with rational ones).
3.  Count backwards from 100 by 3’s when you feel the anxiety coming on. The idea behind this is for you to take control of the anxiety before it controls you. Try doing some deep breathing before you do this.
4.  Do something that you enjoy and can focus on - music, bike ride, go for a walk, meditation etc.
5.  Scent Therapy - Lavender can have a calming effect on people.
6.  Exercising 3-4 times a week, exercise will emit endorphin’s which is a natural tranquilizer.
7.  Hot Bath with Epsom Salt can be relaxing.
8.  Try and stay away from caffeine and sugar. Eat healthy. Drink lots of water.
9.  Laugh - Laughing will produce endorphin’s also.

You should make an appointment and go over things with your healthcare provider, a different doctor a different medication then in the past could totally make a difference.

Supplements are good for anyone, yes you should run them past your doctor.  Most importantly make sure you take good quality ones.  Good quality will not be cheap.  Something is wrong if you pick up a 1.000 pill bottle of omegas for 10.00 so do some research on that.

Stay strong, keep fighting back, it will be worth it.

Posted by Alanna on Jan 20, 2014 at 6:35pm

Afternoon. I have a son who is adhd & I am ADD. I know vyvanse can produce all of those current symptoms. I had to remove my 9yr old from it and put him back on Focalin XR. You can’t even tell when he is on it.  His personality is still the same and he tells me that it doesn’t make him feel “weird” like the other one did. It helps his brain slow down and he is able to make more rational decisions. I only give it to him during the week day so his body will not become dependent on it. They tried him on vyvanse and it went wrong…so very wrong. I do not recommend that product to anyone.

Any medicine you take 21+ days consecutively can cause your body to become dependent.  It will go through withdrawals, etc.  You would have to back your body off of a medicine so it will not respond “violently” against you. 

Depression is a sub of ADHD. It is something YOU have to manage, i.e. your thought life.  Although your body can dump into your system extra chemicals that make you more prone to depression, you would have to address it at the first time you notice it. Do something that relaxes you, i.e. drawing, meditating, singing, etc. 

I teach my son how to manage his “overload” in his body by breathing techniques mentioned above + refocusing his though pattern at the same time.  I say there is something available to help you, but you will have to be willing to find it. 

There are herbs you can try that can help your anxiety that has calming affects. Herbal teas that contain chamomile, spearmint, lemon grass, and other herbs and flowers are generally considered to be safe options for children and adults who want to relax.

Posted by DMose on Jan 29, 2014 at 9:43pm

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