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Wasted Mornings


I apologize if this topic has been done to death, but I’m new here and don’t have the time to look back through all the posts. Feel free to point me in the right direction.

I have worked from home for most of my adult life. I’m now technically unemployed, but still doing some freelance work - still working at home. Although I sometimes have trouble waking up in the mornings, worse than that is the two or three hours after I get up, when I’m in some kind of suspended animation. Many mornings, this time just slips away from me. I make tea and eat cereal, and suddenly it’s 11:00 and I haven’t accomplished anything. Often, I’ve spent the time on the computer; it begins with checking email, which I feel like I need to do to respond to work-related emails and see what’s ahead for my workday, but inevitably I end up reading various articles, or…I can’t even say what, exactly. I sometimes do things around the house, too, but it takes me so long to get things done that the time investment seems disproportional to what is actually accomplished. 

For a while I was putting on my running clothes as soon as I got up, and running before breakfast. Getting out of my robe and in “active” clothes certainly helped. Then winter set in and my motivation for that plummeted. I’ve tried forbidding myself from using the computer until I got dressed, had breakfast, walked the dog, etc. but the commitment doesn’t last. Maybe I need to stick with it longer to break the psychological habit.

Underneath the surface problems, I feel like there’s part of me that resists getting going in the morning. I feel sluggish, tired, and I want to “enjoy” my quiet me-time and not feel forced into rushing around and doing things I’m not ready for. I know it’s immature and childish, but it seems like this has hung around since childhood, when I loved to sleep in and the battle over getting up and getting to school, church, etc. began between my parents and me (and teachers). I also feel “foggy,” like I can’t think of what I should do next or what my goals are, and so I default to a convenient distraction.

Anyone else been through this? I know I’ve been spoiled by my work-from-home situation (and no kids). When I held “outside” jobs in the past years ago, I was often late, disorganized, and had lots of anxiety. I’ve made good strides in getting more organized and reducing anxiety, but not so much in this arena.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Replies

You certainly have a way with words, Wordsmith. The topic may have been around but never so articulately drawn.

I suspect that you are right about a part of you that resists. While this may not be the only feature of your morning protocol it probably contributes to it. So you are in kind of battle where making rules and commitments creates more resistance.

If the battle metaphor works maybe there is a way you can go over to the other side, accept the way you work and find some ways to take advantage of it.

You may be making much better use of your time than you realize.

Posted by John Tucker, PhD, ACG. ADHD Coach on Jan 28, 2014 at 8:27pm

Hello Wordsmith, Yes,  been through it! ALL MY LIFE!

In your profile, I see that you are ADHD and have only tried Behavioral Therapy? Does that mean that you don’t take, and have never tried, medication for your symptoms? Mornings are often the hardest part of the day for ADHDers, and meds help direct you, and probably motivate you, to what you need to begin doing. (Your distracted mind is having it’s morning roller coaster ride, and it’s overwhelming smile  “Trying” medication would be the first thing I’d think of for ADHD morning motivation. I take the short acting Adderall dosages, and my morning dose works great.

Terry

Posted by Grierwego on Jan 28, 2014 at 8:36pm

I can identify with every word. I, also, am self-employed from home, responsible for my own motivation and productivity. It takes extraordinary discipline to change that kind of morning morass. Unfortunately, it usually requires increasing anxiety about money to drive a change. Also, I’ve been on medication for 4-5 years now, and I still am capable of this same kind of routine.

So, I don’t have a clear answer, and I’ll I’ll be paying close attention to this thread.

Posted by Tom K on Jan 28, 2014 at 9:17pm

Wordsmith, um I believe you are my long lost twin!!  We are leading very parallel lives. Ok, you and I could do some talking, if it weren’t for my mental fog and lack of discipline to walk away from the computer. smile I too have always been a sleeper…back in the younger days..sleep till noon, up till wee hours. When I wake up so sluggish and exhausted saying OMG I’m so tired, I need to get a nap in…my hubby will now say kiddingly but not really, what those 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep didn’t rejuvenate you? And I know what I need to do, often very easy, quick tasks that could take me five minutes. But for some reason I procrastinate..I don’t do them..then I stress about not doing them and OMG I never emailed or called back…they’re going to think I’m such a slacker. It’s like I have “completion fear!”

I worked in the ad business most of my adult life. At my last agency job where I worked for 11 years, around year nine, I started feeling immense anxiety. At that time I had a 2 y.o boy and a 4 y.o boy. After a routine physical, my doctor’s nurse called me and said my EKG/Xray was showing that I had had to have an echocardiogram because something about a possible blockage in left lung or something crazy. That day I was in my boss’s office and started to cry. I was consoled but still felt very worried. Ok so fast track to a lunch break one day at mall…by the time I got back to my office I was short of breath and my heart was beating 110 mph! Felt that “flight or fright.” My boss came by and I was panting and said starting to sob…I feel like there is something wrong with me. She immediately called her Mom’s cardiologist and they said I needed to come to ER. Boss drove me and called my hubby. They diagnosed me with “unknown chest pain.” I soon found out my “abnormal heart issue” was a quirk..a glitch in the test. Said it happens. So no worries ($%@@#%…excuse my French). Within 7 days, dropping my 2 yo off at daycare, I went into a flying rage over some little thing my son did…he started crying and I immediately hugged and kissed him and apologized. I was cool and then as I got closer to work, I began crying..pulled into my co. garage and was bawling and petrified, not sure where to go. I pulled out and went into bank’s lot across the street. I melted down…I was breaking apart…not just sobbing but guttural wailing that only grew stronger and stronger. I called my OB and her nurse walked me through and called my hubby right away. When he came to get me I was a broken down mess. I could barely walk. I was hyperventilating to point where I couldn’t stand and couldn’t feel my hands, nose, face!??? Admitted me to ER and gave me bag to breathe into…that was the day my life changed as I was prescribed Paxil…never will be the same I thought. I could spend a good few hours writing about the years after that.

But long story short, a few years later my son then in 1st grade was diagnosed with ADHD. At our initial meeting with the doc, my hubby and I giggled as the doc went over the symptoms…me nodding yes. Hubby said well I don’t know if you totally explained my son but you described my wife to a T! I had thought for years, rather a big portion of my life, that there was something not right…anger issues, mood swings, irritability, mental fog, anxiety, loss of concentration, fear of exposing any mistakes to point I would read/re-read a client’s email 20 times afraid I’d send along with a coworker’s inappropriate email regarding the client, etc.The list went on. I was conscientious to a fault..making myself always feel less than perfect…why was I only one still working at 6:30 pm. Don’t others know there is a lot of work to be done?!!

Don’t worry, novel almost over, or maybe not, because then would need to step away from this computer. hahah ADD inside joke…So I ended up finally quitting that job after my hubby couldn’t stand to see me becoming unhealthy due to stress. And don’t get me wrong…according to everyone else, I was near perfect, detailed to the last dotted i, on top of everything, always so bubbly, happy, perky. But little did everyone know the incredible amount of effort, energy and mental exhaustion I went through to give that impression. I felt like a fraud.

After my Dad suddenly passed away in March 2011, the anxiety returned. I began to focus on trying to find a psychiatrist to diagnose Adult ADHD. I found her, and she did..very definitely. Then asked if I’d be surprised if she told me I had a mood spectrum disorder?! Uh whaaaa? Uh whoooo? Really?! Seriously? Um wait a second! Would that account for this? For that? How about these? So yah, actually not so surprised. I’m now a walking arsenal of prescriptions. Finally have found some balance, calm, clarity..look back on many things from childhood to now and realize a lot of signs were there, but I was keeping my theories in my mind…parents, friends, co-workers, teachers, no one knew the internal demons I was facing day to day to get through my day. I too started working from home freelancing. Great gig, home for kids, off in summer…but being home all day left to my own thoughts and insecurities became toxic…I didn’t know what to do or when, how to find structure, how to ignore every single thing wrong with the house, then feeling down that I didn’t even know where to start. My escape was being on the computer…all the time…semi-present, not even being productive…but you know of course, there was work to do, had to answer emails, research…what honey…oh you have practice…ohhhh you hate our mattress? Then I was the irritating one trying to jump into the conversation to feel part of things, but really having no idea what was being discussed.  I have hyper focus like no one’s business. Right now, a meteor shower could destroy the planet and I’d just be typing along. smile

I’m so glad I saw your post. It’s everything I’ve felt and been struggling with but you verbalized it…perfectly!  So Wordsmith, the one million words I just typed can be summarized as this. ADHD is not a disorder. It’s a way of living. A daily challenge. A puzzle in progress. I’m not ADHD. I’m me! Blessings to you and may we both find order. smile

Posted by stacyleigh on Jan 28, 2014 at 9:38pm

My problem is chronic snooze-button-pressing!!!!!

Posted by SuzieSubie on Jan 28, 2014 at 9:41pm

HI Wordsmith,
    I’m right there with you. How ever I’m on meds. One of   which is Adderall. What I’ve start going is setting two alarms. The 1st on is set for a half an hour be for I want to get up. the 2nd alarm is for when I want to get up. When the 1st alarm goes off, i take my adderall and promptly go back to sleep. then when the 2nd alarm goes off is when I try to get up. The point is that by the time the 2nd alarm goes off the adderall has time to start working and helps keep me one track (somewhat,I still lose time some morning). Also, it helps because I don’t have to remenber to take when I get up. However,I struggle to not sleep thur my alarms.

    Another thing I do is have the reminder alarm app. on my cell phone go off at certain time though out the day to reorient me to the persent. For instance, it goes off at 10:00, which alerts me to the fact that “my morning time” is over and I need to start on my to do list. Then at 12:00, to remind me to eat, then 2:30, which means my husband will be home in an hour,etc.. This way I’m more aware of the time passing because I have no concept of time.
    I hope I explained the concept to your understanding. when I started doing this it helped give me reality check on time management.
    Also I use a great cell phone app. call “30/30”. Which let you creat a to do list, and alotting each task a certain amout of time, then a little alarm goes off to indicate times up and to move on to the next task. Which really helps me with my hyper focusing. which is another area I struggle with.
  I hope this helps, and know your not alone and it the nature of the gift of ADHD, no a fault in your character. For me there are alot of gifts to having ADHD, finding ways to manage it is the secret.
Good Luck and God bless,
Tracy

Posted by tming9900 on Jan 28, 2014 at 10:00pm

Is it possible to alter your schedule?  Instead of working the 8 - 5 then having your evening hours free, could you have your morning hours free and then work noon - 8?  Could there be some Seasonal Affective Disorder underneath the morning blahs.  For what it’s worth, I have similar issues with time.  The computer does seem to be a time swallower.  I would rather be reading email than doing housework!  Sometimes I can turn off the computer and get things done, sometimes not.  I think those good habits have to continue, like running outside in good weather or inside in bad weather.  One tip I heard was to schedule a hard thing just before a good thing, like make 3 cold calls before lunch.  Then you don’t go to lunch until the 3 calls are made.  That may work better if lunch is always at the same time.  Making a visual schedule sometimes helps me.

Posted by whizinc on Jan 29, 2014 at 12:38am

Just joined this group. Discovered that i was ADAD a few years ago after almost dying from Cymbalta side effects. I’m 58 years old and wasting time in the morning has been a lifelong pattern. However, i never had trouble getting up and going to work when i had to be there. My problem was holding the job! I’m terrified of meds because my system over reacts to chemicals.

Posted by Tiredofit on Jan 29, 2014 at 3:34am

Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts and for sharing your experiences. It’s life-saving to know that I’m not alone (like when I first discovered I had ADHD).

I was on medication briefly (Adderall) and it was fantastic for eliminating mental distractions (all those signs popping up in my head telling me I should pay attention to this or that other thing, and the anxiety that follows) but at this time I can’t take any stimulants because of heart problems. It also made me feel a little too “on” and hyperfocused, like a live wire, but some experimentation on dose probably would have helped. Hoping to be able to try meds again at some point.

The suggestion to set phone reminders for getting to work, lunch break, etc. is good. I often forget to eat lunch. It goes without saying that I do not have a good sense of time passing. Maybe putting together a very short list of things to do first thing in the morning that goes on my bedside table or white board would help: set timer, etc.

A counselor actually worked with me on this issue. We wrote down a few things that I felt were essential for me to do in the morning before work: tea/breakfast, journaling (including what my goals are for the day and what I need to do - to help get me recoup after sleep and focusing on those things), walk the dog, yoga/meditation. I set time limits for each, and anything else had to be set aside for another time, like after work or weekends. That lasted about a week. I don’t know…something in me just resists that structure. Of course I didn’t stick with it long enough to make it a habit.

I’d like to work a later schedule, and am often still cramming in work when it’s time for dinner. But I do good work in the a.m. if I can just get started, and I like to have the evenings free to make dinner and spend time with my hubby.

Whizinc, great idea to schedule a hard thing just before a good thing. I do have a tendency to get motivated and productive just before my “time is up” - before I have to leave home, before dinner is ready, etc. I suppose that’s the procrastinator in me. Having that end time approaching is so concrete, as opposed to the entire day stretching out ahead of me.

Stacy, thank you for sharing. I really sympathize because I’ve been there with the mood swings, the “completion” fear (perfect word for this!) even for small, quick tasks that would help me out, reading emails 20 times to make sure there aren’t mistakes (as an editor the pressure is on for me not to leave typos) or to make sure I have someone’s name right (then forgetting the attachment - duh!). For years I have also been the friendly, bubbly person exhausted inside from the effort of keeping things together. Maybe I’ll start another thread about the “work” of meeting new people and maintaining relationships, and how it’s easier to just avoid people than to get involved. Sad, but true for me.

Yes, it’s a puzzle and a challenge, but I’m also glad that I am who I am, because I enjoy this wandering brain and its flights of fancy. Without it, I wouldn’t be who I am. Best of luck to you!

Posted by wordsmith on Jan 29, 2014 at 5:42pm

And John, thanks for this:

“If the battle metaphor works maybe there is a way you can go over to the other side, accept the way you work and find some ways to take advantage of it.”

I like this idea. One thing I just remembered that has helped to get me working in the mornings is to sit down to work or write, say, just for ten or fifteen minutes. It sounds like a doable amount for my sleep-addled brain, and I’m still technically free to stop and do something else. But once I sit down and get into it, my hyperfocus often kicks in and I might not get out of my chair for 2 hours. So I’m kind of tricking myself by using my ADHD to my advantage. But this has usually happens on the spur of the moment, as an impulse, and not part of a schedule.

I’ll have to think about the way I work and how I can roll with it, rather than battling it. I have been able to accept more and more that I will likely never be that 8 to 5 person who approaches tasks in a methodical way. I’ll spend all day on one thing, the next day on something else entirely; be terribly distracted one day and plow through my work to-do list the next. Swinging moods, impulses, constantly evolving goals, new ideas, and unpredictability seem to be essential characteristics of my mind.

Posted by wordsmith on Jan 29, 2014 at 5:57pm

It’s sure nice to know though that we are all in a special club, with common “issues.” haha For me, reading the time lapse problems, hyperfocusing (spending hours trying to find the best way to organize papers..really, I do that and more). These types of forums legitimize my “disorder.” It’s not just me being late, or lazy, or unable to allow enough time to complete tasks or even start them. There is a reason for my chaos. Ya know!

So, the best we can all do is keep sharing, trying out the ideas and tips we hear and always try to stay positive and acknowledge when we are productive. I woke up at 10, made breakfast and coffee as I read MORE magazine. Went to shower, spa’d myself with facial products. Then decided to wipe off my entire top of dresser then wipe it down and dust pictures. I made it downstairs then came to computer to turn on Pandora when I organized…that was about 1 1/2 hours ago..haha But part of the time was trying to find Wordsmith’s post and the comments. I am a hot mess! So I did just empty the drawers of plastic unit, pitching old biz cards of people I mostly didn’t know, old instruction manuals…all 5 drawers empty. Think I’ll celebrate with an iced tea and lunch..ooops forgot to set any alarm to eat. haha Have a great rest of week everyone. Oh and I just read about 30/30 and downloaded last night. Need to figure out how it works. smile

Posted by stacyleigh on Jan 29, 2014 at 8:08pm

It is nice to read that so many others have challenges with this too. 

For me it seems that the idea of routine and setting goals and sticking to them is about as exciting as going to have a tooth pulled at the dentist - you know you must but it doesn’t make it any easier whatsoever. 

I have been working freelance for about 9 months after a 15 corporate career and it is a challenge - these days I just try to forgive myself and see itty bitty accomplishments as something to be proud of - heck, if I didn’t give myself props for both loading and unloading the dishwasher in the same 24 hour period who would?! 

I have learned in my 2 years with ADHD that life with it is work and some days you just need to call off from work!!!  grin

Posted by BaT_PA on Jan 29, 2014 at 8:45pm

Stacy, your day sounds like so many of mine. Start one thing, get sidetracked…lose track of time…but you got something done. Definitely a reason to celebrate! Also, taking care of yourself and feeling good (with your shower and spa time) is just as important as the to-do list. I only realized that recently. I can’t reduce my life to a list of things to “get done.”

BaT_PA, I hear you on the drudgery of routine and goal-setting. Over time I actually became pretty obsessive about lists and goals in my attempt to cope - but I’ve realized that although it can be useful to a point, an obsession with goals, plans, and measurements can also kill creativity and the leave little room for engaging in something just for the pleasure of it. The last few days I called off from “work,” like you said, and just followed my interests and passions for the day, and actually got quite a bit accomplished. When I gave myself permission to do that, I didn’t engage in as much distracting or avoiding behavior.

I was thinking today too that I actually do get quite a bit done during my times of hyperfocus. So maybe the “free time” for my brain - the time I often consider wasted, when I’m not “accomplishing” much - may actually be productive and necessary in its own way. In fact, I read something in the news recently about the importance of this free thinking or wandering mind, and how we lose something when we are too focused all the time on our devices, tasks, etc.

Posted by wordsmith on Jan 30, 2014 at 3:17am

I am NOT a morning person, but there are things that I need to do in the morning.  I get up and start my day because I have to; not because I want to…

Having said that, I would suggest that you discuss the situation with your doctor.  If this “wasted mornings” thing has been going on every winter, then it could be SAD and there are steps that you can take.  On the other hand, it could be a low Thyroid function problem, which I also have.  It could also be something nutritional—something now missing from your diet that is slowing you down.

There could be more going on than just ADD symptoms gone awry.

Posted by Dianne in the Desert on Jan 30, 2014 at 7:55am

Wordsmith - your comments about the “work” of meeting people and being the bubbly exhausted person rings so true.  I was in a career in HR where I was expected to be “on” all the time, lead a large team, and keep it all together - I was such a fake - now that I have been at home and not in that world I am so much happier - and finding it harder to maintain relationships (the not so happy side of it).  I wonder about ADHD folks like us - we are clearly bright, engaging types who can inspire others - yet I read so much about folks who would rather be introverted and at times almost reclusive - not sure if this is the brooding “genius” of ADHD or not - I am sure if you look at writing on possible ADHD people from a historical perspective (DaVinci) we may see the same patterns of behavior.

I unfortunately still feel that pang of letting people down when I need to hide out - I was just lamenting last night about how much work is involved with staying on task with ADHD - we did have a good laugh though about the 3rd person in our relationship and wanting to tell the ADHD me to go “bleep” off for a while…

Anyway, the science and psychology behind all of this is fascinating and I often wonder if there would be satisfaction in studying ADHD for a career…any thoughts out there on this?

Posted by BaT_PA on Jan 30, 2014 at 12:06pm

This is the samd as my situation. I work from home. I do have a pattern-emails, errands while the kids are at school, lunch, then work. Unfortunately, that leaves about 2 hours of work before I have to pick the kids up and do homework, etc. with them. I then get in a couple of hours of work after they go to bed.

Even with meds, I just can’t concentrate in the morning. If I could work from 1pm-9pm, with a dinner break, I’d be golden!

I’ve started a line dance class in the mornings. This morning, it occurred to me that my neurotransmitters just aren’t at a critical level so early. I took a Ritalin today-it didn’t seem to make much difference. I’m on thyroid meds. So I don’t think there is a medical reason-it just that it takes my body/brain time to get going. I have had little problem dancing in the evenings-it’s the getting going in the a.m. that’s the struggle.

As you don’t have kids, try shifting your work to when you CAN focus, which may include breaking up your day if you have to interface with people working 9-5. Beyond that, I haven’t found a solution either.

Posted by family of adders on Jan 31, 2014 at 1:54am

I knew I had this problem (morning musing) before I knew to label it ADHD, and just knew I could never work from home. Unfortunately, if they were to find out in my career that I was ADHD, I’d be let go, so getting an official diagnosis is not an option and neither are meds.

Regardless, my coping mechanism has always been to have something scheduled first thing in the morning, like a workout (cross fit works great because it’s scheduled & there is team support, just pricey. Folks could also try a morning meetup group, start your own- even better for accountability). Even an AM book club would work.

I really struggle with scheduling and routines as well, but I agree with Dr. Tucker that maybe it is not such a bad thing to let yourself do this- just find a way to limit it. Working from home would be nearly impossible for me, so you have obviously found some way to cope- now just fine tune!

Posted by Gretaj on Jan 31, 2014 at 3:41pm

I wish we were all in the same city, as would love to form a morning coffee twalk group with all of you. We’d probably be there for hours then have jitters from that coffee! haha But hey, bet it would all get us out of the house in the mornings. Now if I could get up early enough to get a shower in before that. Happy Friday and have a great weekend. smile

Posted by stacyleigh on Jan 31, 2014 at 6:45pm

I’d like to say what I do to get on track and stay on track in the morning is that I make a list the night before and break up the distasteful things into tiny parts so the job isn’t “deal with the health care spending account for 2013” but “call the dentist to get a receipt for July”. That starts me off with a win when I call the dentist - only, if I’m awake before the dentist is open I CANNOT make that item first, because I’d have to immediately skip it -setting up a bad pattern for the day. I can’t say that’s what I do because I’m not there yet. I’m supposed to do this and want to, but I have yet to find two triggers - the first is to trigger me to write the list at night and the second is to trigger me in the morning to remember that I made a list - and to look at it. One trip-up for me is that I need to plan the little things. NT (neurotypical) people can say to themselves “Oh, I’ll make a list the night before” and they do it - but I will forget that I planned to do it.  Triggers are great - they really work, but some of us have trouble setting them up - I need triggers to tell me to set my alarms!

Posted by Juggler on Feb 01, 2014 at 4:06am

You are NOT alone.  It’s like walking through water waist high against the waves in flip flops.  I pretty much wing it through as best I can and enjoy the moment when my mind & body become one after about 4 hours of being awake and on the go. 
I am more productive in the afternoon/evening hours and quite enjoy the silence of 2am - I’ve spent years “trying” to confirm to the morning schedule of the organized and alert pre-caffeine. 
The only advise I have for you is to accept it for what it is, and what it isn’t.  Perhaps there is a reason we are built this way…we aren’t robots and probably fall dead centre in the most likely not to conform category. 
The only suggestion I can make is to check your iron and B12, B6 levels….a low reading in either can also cause fog and fatigue.

Posted by SES on Mar 06, 2014 at 6:03pm

For all who are not “morning people”—one of the most common “sleep disorders” in ADHD is a circadian rhythm problem, Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder. 

The “cure” is to get up every single day at exactly the same time, never take a nap, never sleep in.  Doing that without fail can/will reset your circadian rhythms to an otherwise unheard of, for you, time-frame.

Back in ‘05 I got that wonderful diagnosis (was so relieved to know that my lifelong desire for the entire world to operate on 2nd Shift instead of 1st Shift was not a product of my inability to “grow up”).  The sleep doc I saw (a neurologist) gave me the Most Motivated Patient Ever Award when I came back 6 weeks later and reported that all his advice (which also includes light therapy) worked—just like he told me, I was now going to sleep within 3 minutes of laying down and waking up every single morning at 0630 WITHOUT AN ALARM (from the Queen of Repeated Snooze Alarms).

Despite my then undiagnosed ADHD I managed to consistently maintain that rigid schedule for at least 700-some-odd days straight. 

I tell that long drawn out story only because it was the only 700+ day stretch of my lifetime I have NOT had the horrible ADHD “morning fog.” 

I’m trying really hard to convince myself to go back to that rigid schedule…it was the best time of my life!

True Story: my then new neighbor stumbled over one morning (barely light out) to borrow a cup of milk.  I opened the door fully alert, all chipper & smiling; he looked at me with disgust, “Oh God, you’re one of THOSE people—a morning person.”

Now I’m back to my usual routine: Do-Not-Talk-To-Me-For-At-Least-30-Minutes-Until-The-Coffee-And-Vyvanse-Kick-In-Or-I’ll-Have-No-Idea-What-You-Are-Talking-About-OR-I-Will-Bite-Your-Head-Off…never can tell which one it’ll be…depends on the day…

Posted by BC on Mar 06, 2014 at 7:51pm

I admire your desire to get back to the routine - I hate that they are so hard to stick to!  I will be your buddy to check in and see if we can do it together if you are up for an accountability partner?

Posted by BaT_PA on Mar 06, 2014 at 7:54pm

Interesting proposition, BaT_PA.  Send me a PM and we can chat about that.

Posted by BC on Mar 06, 2014 at 9:15pm

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